Showing posts with label Discharge. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Discharge. Show all posts

Jan 9, 2012

Arguing about Discharge...

Straight to the point. No mood means time for Discharge. As I was net surfing I saw some bloggers comments and I had a silly smile on my face because it's things i've always thought about Discharge. So, the dialogue is between Aesop, the cosmic keeper, and the Wizard, the cassette ripper. Enjoy.

the wizard :
-Is it bad that I think DISCHARGE are overrated? Does it make me less punk? Am I horrible for thinking that 75% of the DISCHARGE ripoff acts are actually better to listen to than DISCHARGE? Is it funny that when they toured the US in 200? with that VARUKERS dude singing, my friend had to describe to the drummer what "D-Beat" is, and that indeed there was an entire genre based upon his drum beat that he invented because he couldn't really play?

awww, never mind, I'll just go read that first comment again. That's way better than asking a bunch of pointless questions.

Aesop :
-Okay, Wizard. Yes, Discharge is overrated but only because they were so fucking great, make sense. They may not have been as good as everyone says but "Hear Nothing..." remains as one of the greatest records of all time. This Dis bands that followed never really interested me because they adopted the visual aesthetic but never quite got the power and simplicity of Discharge at their best. It doesn't bother me the drummer didn't know of d beat, they never called themselves such, it'd be dumb. Hell I invented all kinds of shit that I have no idea what the kids might be calling it, shit like flim flam, green core, titpunch, and ramshackle!!! Discharge certainly merits the attention they received, unlike hack bands like The Exploited, UK Subs, and the Varukers. When it comes down to it, there were only three truly truly great UK punk bands...

Discharge
Rudimentary Peni
Subhumans

the Wizard :
-I did choose my words carefully, knowing this would be your response. While I do think that many (though certainly not all) modern Dis bands are indeed more interesting to listen to than Discharge, I would never contend that they are even marginally important in comparison. It doesn't really matter how well you ape something...you are still merely trying to channel something that has already been done (and probably better).
It doesn't bother me in the least about the drummer either, I just found it amusing that there are thousands of kids trying to recreate something he had done totally on accident, and out of necessity.
And as for the shit you invented? Well, that was really just you trying to figure out how Frank Beard might sound were he blessed with a chance to play for a high as shit pop punk band, or some grey met'lers, right?.
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You can find the whole dialogue here.


now, here you get Discharge's second ep, "Fight Back" from 1980 released on Clay records. I have to take Aesop's side cause i think discharge albums are way more interesting than the ultimate metal boneheads that came back to punk with labels as Earache with money as their aim (this is what i think, i may be wrong). No chance bands as Raw Noise, Disgust or Death Dealers to get on the scales with Discharge. And if anyone tell to me again that only the first two albums are good, i'll say "all the hipsters say so...".

"I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that Discharge was the greatest punk band of all time, and possibly the greatest band of all time in general"